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219 Traitors

March 23, 2010
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The 219 traitors who sold their souls to destroy America’s Health Care:

Ackerman
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Bean
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boccieri
Boswell
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Braley (IA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carney
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Chu
Clarke
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Cohen
Connolly (VA)
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Courtney
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Dahlkemper
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Donnelly (IN)
Doyle
Driehaus
Edwards (MD)
Ellison
Ellsworth
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Foster
Frank (MA)
Fudge
Garamendi
Giffords
Gonzalez
Gordon (TN)
Grayson
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hall (NY)
Halvorson
Hare
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Heinrich
Higgins
Hill
Himes
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hodes
Holt
Honda
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson Lee (TX)
Johnson (GA)
Johnson, E. B.
Kagen
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kilroy
Kind
Kirkpatrick (AZ)
Klein (FL)
Kosmas
Kucinich
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee (CA)
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Luján
Maffei
Maloney
Markey (CO)
Markey (MA)
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McNerney
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Michaud
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mitchell
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murphy (CT)
Murphy (NY)
Murphy, Patrick
Nadler (NY)
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Perriello
Peters
Pingree (ME)
Polis (CO)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Richardson
Rodriguez
Rothman (NJ)
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Salazar
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sarbanes
Schakowsky
Schauer
Schiff
Schrader
Schwartz
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sestak
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Speier
Spratt
Stark
Stupak
Sutton
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Titus
Tonko
Towns
Tsongas
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Welch
Wilson (OH)
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth

TREASON.

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24 Comments leave one →
  1. March 23, 2010 6:56 pm

    If anyone has a good handle on who’s running against Scott Murphy (D NY 20th), Gillibrand or Schumer hit my district 20 NY site and leave a comment, with links if possible.

    http://district20ny.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/scott-murphy-kirsten-gillibrand-chuck-schumer-what-candidates-are-running-against-them/

    It’s not to early to start posting against these 3. On my Kingston, NY site I have started postinf for George Phillips who is opposing Maurice Hinchey in district 22.

    Bob A.

    mailto:district20ny@boudica.us

    • March 24, 2010 12:31 pm

      These people — ALL of them — are in a WHOLE MESS of danger come election time. They have pissed off an entire nation.

      Good work, Bob.

  2. Sarah Baram permalink
    March 23, 2010 7:25 pm

    I feel like Pelosi’s name should be in bold, with something a bit meaner next to it. She is just that especially awful. BUT, I have no doubt she will be voted out in the next election. (Hopefully)

    • March 24, 2010 12:33 pm

      Nancy Pelosi is a special kind of evil. She doesn’t care about what the people want… in fact, I can’t think of anything she DOES care about. Her “legacy” is “ruined” (as if it was going to be all that great before this Health Care mess), and her approval ratings are now in the TEENS… if they even last THAT high.

      I have no doubt that she’ll be elected out of office soon. Not soon enough, but soon.

  3. Fishleg permalink
    March 25, 2010 11:30 am

    This is a list of communists who have committed high crimes against this nation. They all belong in a jail cell.
    Treasonous dogs, every one.

    • April 6, 2010 11:57 pm

      You’re absolutely correct, FishLeg. These knobs have a surprise coming in November… that is, if the elections go as they’re supposed to go. But, we’ll see. Pfft.

  4. March 25, 2010 8:15 pm

    Oran’s Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: “…[a]…citizen’s actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation].(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason"via&quot;)

    So how is this treason in any sense of the word? Where is the foreign government?
    I respect that you don’t agree with the decision these people made, but that in no way makes them traitors. The districts elected these people because they trusted them to make the right decisions. If a majority of the reps and senators make the decision that this healthcare bill is the right idea, then it becomes law. When you voted for whomever in the house, you also subscribed to the American form of representative democracy, where in each district chooses their representative, and they all vote on issues. When you say that this goes against what the people in America want, that is certainly true: for about 43% of Americans. However, a majority of people believe that this course of action is the right one, so this is the course we will take. That’s Democracy, and that’s America. If you don’t like it, tough titties.

    Also, get your facts straight. Pelosi’s job approval rating is around 11%. However, fully 52% of people don’t know or don’t care. I would also attribute her 37% unfavorable rating to people parroting Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, et. al. Do you people even think about why you hate this woman, or do you just blindly follow your leaders like so many fascists before you?

    • March 26, 2010 12:22 am

      Sad thing is? At one point I actually thought you were relatively intelligent. This comment sure put an end to that.

      Where oh where to start? How about let’s start by getting YOUR facts straight first, kiddo.

      First of all; this is not HOW the American government is supposed to work. The American government is supposed to work FOR the people. This is working against the people. It is working as if it were a foreign government attempting to overthrow what is supposed to be a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. Mkay? I’m not making this too difficult to understand, am I? I’m breaking it down – nice and simple. Just for you! 🙂

      Voting the way these people voted DOES make them traitors. Their constituents were against this – in LARGE numbers. Protested it. Wrote letters. Sent e-mails. Made phone calls. They made it KNOWN that they were against this major power-grab they call “health care reform”. But, after bribes, promises, and arm twisting – these sissies gave in and sold their souls. Just because a bunch of representatives and Senators voted a certain way does NOT mean that it’s what the people want. The people were ignored.

      Here: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/ The number one polling source out there. Completely unbiased and used by almost every media outlet.

      (Look! Even a list! It’ll be easier for you to follow this way)
      1. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform
      “Health Care Reform: It’s Time to Decide, and 54% of Voters Oppose the Health Care Plan”

      2. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/march_2010/55_favor_repeal_of_health_care_bill
      “55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill”

      3. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/right_direction_or_wrong_track
      “Right Direction or Wrong Track: 26% Say U.S. Heading In Right Direction”

      4. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performance
      “Congressional Performance: 64% Say Congress Is Doing A Poor Job”

      Still following, yes? I hope so – because this is easy stuff. I notice when you libtards run out of intellectual “ammo” you tend to fall back on the “Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity/etc…” issue. News flash, kiddo: Nobody needs Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh to do their thinking for them. I, for one, do not.

      Now, “Fascists”… I don’t know how much you’re paying in tuition… but I’d strongly demand a refund. It’s quite clear that you’re becoming dumber and dumber with every comment you make here. Your stupid is showing.

      Main Entry: fas·cism
      Pronunciation: \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
      Function: noun
      Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
      Date: 1921

      1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
      2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

      — fas·cist \-shist also -sist\ noun or adjective often capitalized

      — fas·cis·tic \fa-ˈshis-tik also -ˈsis-\ adjective often capitalized

      — fas·cis·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb often capitalized

      Now, step back from your ego… back from your poor liberal “education” … and look around. BHussein Obama and his cronies stand for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader. It’s VERY obvious based on the way they ignore the will of the people and ram communistic legislation down out throats, yes? Yes.

      So, who’s the fascist?

      Nice try, moron. Go back to your tough titties.

      • _decepticon permalink
        March 27, 2010 7:42 pm

        First of all, watch your tone. I am trying to have a civil debate here, and I would appreciate it if you could avoid all the ad hominem attacks. I actually really enjoy arguing with you, for a number of reasons. But when you’re out-and-out rude that that, it’s very off putting.

        You believe in the Constitution, yes? Well let’s have a look.
        According to Article 1, Section 8, congress (and only congress) has the power to make laws. Sections 2 and 3, as well as Amendment 14, Section 2 and Amendment 17, Section 1 provide for the election of congress by the people. So, the people elect congress, and the congress makes laws. This is called representative democracy, and was one of the principles that the US was founded upon. You seem to feel that because congress passed a law that the majority of citizens did not approve of, it acted unconstitutionally. That is simply false. If we passed laws based on majority vote, a) nothing would ever get done, and b)that would be a direct democracy, and not the representative democracy that the founding fathers wished for. Amusingly, direct democracy is actually a traditionally marxist idea.

        By electing their congress people, the people of the United States empowered these congress men and women to pass legislation on their behalf: essentially working for the people. So how, specifically, is the house of representatives doing what the constitution and the people gave it the right to do ”working as if it were a foreign government attempting to overthrow what is supposed to be a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC”? I don’t mind if you personally don’t agree with this legislature; I personally don’t agree with many parts of it. But please don’t pretend that it is in some way treasonous or undemocratic.

        Now, on to Rassmussen reports and your source of data. For someone who constantly questions the biases of people, you of all people should realize that Rassmussen has a conservative bent. This bias normally presents itself in the form of the wording of questions. For example, in your stat that “54% of voters oppose health care plan”, the actual question asked was “Generally speaking, do you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and the congressional Democrats?” This is a question clearly designed to evoke a partisan response. Now, I’m sure that people who are up on the actual facts of the bill such as you and me wouldn’t be swayed by such wording. But, according to Rassmussen,
        something like 42% of people have not been following the bill very closely. Such a partisan
        wording could certainly sway a handful of uninformed voters. This can be seen by looking at the poll data from another pollster, such as Qunnipiac, which has a 46% disapproval stat (and a 45% approval!).

        Now, the fascist thing: that was me being a bit hot headed. The proper term is reactionary: you desire for a return to the status quo ante, the previous state of things. I feel that you are misguided to desire for a past that was probably worse than what we have now, and a past that may not have existed anywhere but your imagination. That, however, is your prerogative. What we need to get straight, though, is that Barack Obama is no more a fascist than, and no more a communist than I am. Most of his positions are relatively progressive from a social stand-point (supporting human rights, social justice, tolerance, and free and fair elections), and relatively centrist in economic policy, favoring social market economics (which supports the basic tenets of a free market economy, such as private property, free foreign trade , free price setting, and free exchange of goods; while attempting to intervene to stop recurring problems in pure laissez-faire economics, resulting in things like unemployment ensurance, heath care, the forcible dissolution of monopolies, and general regulation in the financial markets). That basically puts him in the camp of social liberalism, not communism. Calling him (or anyone) a fascist, on the other hand, is basically pointless because fascism is not a defined set of beliefs, but rather a name applied to a number of varying dictatorial regimes that ended 20+ years ago.
        So, let’s elevate the level of discourse here. Instead of crying communist at every given opportunity, have a real look at the policies of this government and where they stand in relation to world and historical trends. I think if you look carefully, you’ll come to many of the same conclusions I have.

  5. Fishleg permalink
    March 27, 2010 9:44 pm

    The congressmen and women disregarded the will of their constituents.
    They voted against the will of the people and are therefore treasonous dogs.
    Don’t like it, decepticon? Eat shit.

  6. Fishleg permalink
    March 27, 2010 9:48 pm

    Bunch of commies and unconstitutional assholes…the enemy is on capital hill.
    How’s that for tone, dickhead? Quit messing with our country…if you don’t like it, move to Iran, shitbag.

    • March 28, 2010 2:04 am

      Support the statements you make, “commies and unconstitutional assholes”, or please leave the discussion. You’re adding less than nothing.

      • March 28, 2010 2:32 am

        Your links are useless when the elected officials who are chosen to REPRESENT THE PEOPLE decide to go against the DESIRES AND DEMANDS of their constituents.

        Ignoring the masses is NOT how our elected government is supposed to function. When the government fails to carry out the peoples’ desires and wishes – it has failed.

        As it stands; our government is fractured. It’s not working like a well oiled machine. It’s going against the people who it’s supposed to represent, and that mirrors a communist-esque style of government.

        Also, you don’t need to tell me to watch my tone. This is serious shit and I’m not going to take some uppity turd on the internet telling me shit like “Also, get your facts straight.” when my facts ARE straight. Or “Pelosi’s job approval rating is around 11%. However, fully 52% of people don’t know or don’t care.” I suggest you get YOUR facts straight before you go flinging your flat-Earth way of thinking around as if you’re some incredibly educated knob. Don’t try to justify what’s happening because it’s NOT right. It’s not what the people want no matter how many statistics you come up with google.

        When you said” I would also attribute her 37% unfavorable rating to people parroting Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, et. al.” Nobody needs Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh to do their thinking for them. It’s not just conservatives who are against this bullshit of a “bill/law”. It’s independents, liberals, on the fencers… it’s the American people. Don’t try to pretend that anyone who’s against what this government is doing is only against it because of talk radio. That’s bullshit and you know it.

        Or this gem: “Do you people even think about why you hate this woman, or do you just blindly follow your leaders like so many fascists before you?” Your definition of Fascist is warped. You want fascism? Look at Washington TODAY. There’s your fascism.

        So YOU watch YOUR tone and you get yourself together before you pretend you’re all knowing, highly educated, and correct. Your “debate” consists of nothing but a mess of crap.

        Commies ARE unconstitutional assholes when they’re working in our government against our people. YOU, pal, are adding less than nothing. Sure, you leave a tremendous amount of WORDS in your comments – but what do they mean? So far what I gather is that you support government working against the people, use conservative talk radio hosts as your “whipping boys”, and pigeonhole a whole mass of people – aka constituents – as un-American because they don’t support treason and communism.

        Watch your tone.

      • March 28, 2010 3:24 am

        I will be the first to admit that my first comment on this post, as well as my response to Fishleg, were things I dashed off quickly, and in anger. When I said “watch your tone”, I might have well been talking to my self.

        That being said, if you truly wish to defend your points of view, defending a person who told me to eat shit is not the best way to do it. If you feel my debate is a mess of crap, refute it properly instead of declaring it worthless.

        I completely agree this is a very serious matter. This is why I want to talk about it with you like a couple of human beings.

        As for what you’ve said here; you’ve set up a straw man to argue against. I never said that anyone who apposes this bill is un-american, all I’ve done is enumerate the powers of congress to pass law. I still fail to understand how congress working the way it is meant to work is unconstitutional, or communistic. We have an individualist government at the moment, something which I support whole-heartedly. For our government to become communistic, it would have to support state take over our means of production, and our private property, something which it has never done. Again, you call our congresspeople “commies”. Why? How is my definition of fascism warped? If not in the way the constitution lays out for it, how is our legislature supposed to function? How is our current government communist-esqe? I don’t feel that you need Glenn Beck to do your thinking for you; I find you a very intelligent person who, in my opinion, has drawn the wrong conclusions from the data presented. I do blame conservative talk show hosts for presenting false data, but, again, I believe you intelligent enough to separate the wheat from the chaff.

        If I offended you, or insulted you in any way, that was not my intention and I apologize for it. I was just trying to get you riled up, a (stupid) goal that I appear to have achieved. I look forward to your response.

  7. March 29, 2010 1:59 am

    For our government to become communistic, it would have to support state take over our means of production, and our private property, something which it has never done.

    Surely you jest? Look around you that is exactly what the government is doing…and only a fool would not see this. Please explain why the government is the largest land holder in the US? Please explain how TARP was NOT implemented to takeover the banking sector? Please explain just what GM/Chrysler do (here’s a hint they produce cars)? What would you call a government subsidy of any sort if not a takeover of whatever the industry is…cars, agriculture, energy, health care, banking, manufacturing, and on and on…tell me again that these things are not something the government has never done…and if you’ll buy that I have gold in a vault located at Fort Knox that I will share with you…WAKE UP decepticon you have been bought and sold a line of bs that is as big as BHO/Lucifer’s ego.

  8. superbloop permalink
    April 6, 2010 11:42 pm

    Ah, these COMMUNIST TRAITORS! They SOLD their SOULS to pass this EVIL bill (although Republicans do NOT sell their souls by having health care industries as lobbyists!)!

    “In 62% of all personal bankruptcy in the United States, medical debt is cited as a factor, the biggest single factor of all.”

    Wanting people with sick realitives too not loose their money due to bankruptcy? EVIL!

    “The United States spends a greater portion of total yearly income in the nation on health care than any United Nations member state except for East Timor (Timor-Leste), although the actual use of health care services in the U.S., by most measures of health services use, is below the median among the world’s developed countries.”

    See? Our health care system WORKS!

    This graph shows wow awesome our system is! We have the highest cost for healthcare per %GDP in the world! Thus, our health care is (moar like was) the best in the world!

    “For 2006-2010, the U.S. life expectancy will lag 38th in the world, after most developed nations, lagging last of the G7 (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, U.K., U.S.) and just after Chile (35th) and Cuba (37th).”

    See! Our health care system is so AWESOME that Cuba has a higher life expectancy rate!

    “According to the U.S. Census Bureau, people in the U.S. without health insurance coverage at some time during 2007 totaled 15.3% of the population, or 45.7 million people.”

    We are (were) so AWESOME that we have over 45 million people uninsured! Is there anything bad about this health care system?

    But these TRAITORS want to take all of this away! Didn’t they consider that the American people WANT to spend the most money to live a bit shorter than Chile?

    • April 7, 2010 12:11 am

      Oh wow. Now I know for sure not to even TRY to take you seriously. Do you know who contributes to the database known as “Wikipedia”? ANYBODY. Anybody with access to a computer can contribute – so, why would anyone trust that to be an incredibly reliable source? If you’re so in favour of the “lifespan” of folks living in Chile – here’s a thought: GO there.

      You don’t like the way American healthcare is run? Go elsewhere. Don’t go screwing it up for the rest of us because you’re a knob and don’t understand that you’ve got a good thing going. The thing about adolescents is that in order for them to understand that they’ve got a good thing going — is that they have to lose it (or as you put it — LOOSE it) in order to understand that.

      While you were googling the internet for “lifespan of nations” or “livespan of countries” or “life expectancy of nations/countries/whatever”; did you not notice that every “source” has different numbers and responses – and gets their data from several sources?

      Nice try, again. C for effort — F for results. 🙂

    • April 7, 2010 12:13 am

      Oh, and we haven’t even begun to “spend money” — so until you get out of Mommy’s house and go out into the REAL world… get a job… try to sustain a comfortable lifestyle; don’t even try.

  9. Fishleg permalink
    April 7, 2010 1:39 pm

    Wikipedia…BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
    Oh, man, that’s funny….

  10. Fishleg permalink
    April 7, 2010 1:41 pm

    deceptidumbass thinks the destruction won’t harm him….

  11. superbloop permalink
    April 7, 2010 9:37 pm

    Okay then. Post information that we do NOT have the following:

    -A realitively low life expectancy rate compared to the rest of the industrialized world (Indeed, statistics may vary (unless they support the conservative view point!): acording to some studyes, we are 42nd!)

    -The highest cost of health care per %GDP, but have a realtivly low useage rate.

    -That debt ISN’T often affected by medical debt.

    -That we don’t have a high uninsurance rate

    I like how you posted no evidence to disprove these facts, basically adimiting that you would rather stick to an old system that fails over one that works.

    • April 7, 2010 10:40 pm

      A relatively low life expectancy? That can be based on a number of things such as lifestyle choices, health, genetics, etc… It’s an individual who is in control of their own lifestyle. If they exercise, eat healthy, keep off the drugs, and do things that are beneficial to their health; chances are they’ll live a longer life. I don’t accept your “low life expectancy” theory, because it’s all situational. I just can’t buy into bullshit theories of life expectancy in the US being lower than anywhere else because of our current health care system – until you factor in things like smoking, diet, exercise; and all of the other things I mentioned above. You’ve got some studyin’ to do, kiddo. Once you accomplish this task, come back and we’ll talk like grownups.

      We have the highest COST of health care – maybe, but the highest QUALITY of health care as well. It balances out. The objective is to obtain a career that provides you with health insurance benefits – or to take it upon yourself to purchase your own health insurance and budget it in with your monthly expenses. What’s a “budget” you ask? Why don’t you check with your pals at Wikipedia? OR – OR – OR- you could always sign up for one of the already “in place” taxpayer funded health insurance programs and mooch off of taxpayers – Oh, but wait! THAT system is going bankrupt! Because when you hand over that much control to the government; it always goes sour.

      Since you seem to love the idea of socialized medicine, here. Read an article or two (or three) from a CANADIAN news source:

      http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13690

      “The issue of Nationalized Obama Care (not national health care) has captured the nation again, as it did with Hillary Care in 1994, that cost the Democrats the loss of the House and the Senate to the Republicans. This over 1000-page, legal mumbo-jumbo monstrosity is one of the most dangerous pieces of legislation ever proposed by any American government since the American Revolution. It will take over every aspect of our lives, remove any semblance of individual privacy and drive the price of health care and just about everything else, through the roof.

      Income taxes will be increased on everyone to pay for it and it won’t be enough. Government, in order to manage our health care for us, will have access to our income tax records, our medical records and our employment records. All this information will be collected in giant government computer data bases and then dumped into lap tops that can be lost or stolen. None of our private information will be safe. Every single American will be just a social security number to these over-paid politicians and bureaucrats.

      Debt is often “affected by medical debt” as you put it quite redundantly; but that’s irresponsibility on the patients’ part. Don’t be a fool, little one. Ask your mom about fiscal responsibility. It’s not just what the government needs to get under control in order to function; but it works on smaller levels. Yes. Families. Individuals. Yes. It’s such a simple concept – I’m surprised that you cannot wrap your brain around it.

      We have high uninsurance rates, yes, but you can thank the lack of TORT reform, portability, and a whole number of other issues dealing with insurance companies and government mandates. Reform doesn’t mean that 1/6th of our economy needs to be taken over by the government, because whether you like it or not – it’s unsustainable, this socialized medicine.

      Here’s another CANADIAN article you might enjoy (HA. Not likely, since it’s educational) But you should read it anyway. It’s about Hitler’s T-4 plan and ObamaCare.

      First of all, understand Hitler was a brilliant, charismatic speaker who said things in style, lied through his teeth and manipulated whatever he had to, to get a vote and power. His big dagger in the heart of the German people and constitution was to somehow get the vote by Parliament to pass his Enabling Act, which, due to contrived crises and manipulated need would give him total power, full power without the need of any more votes or Parliament.

      Obama also seduced 60% of the nation, congress and most the media into not asking real questions and just believing his countless lies.

      What did Hitler do? He first manufactured the need and crises.

      Hitler promised Health care for everyone, jobs for 100% of the German people and protection from what he called the beginning of a widespread uprising. This was the mythological uprising he and his Nazi party created by burning down the German government building, causing huge panic and rage in the people. Hitler at the time blamed the horrific burning on the communists, thus he needed a vote for his Enabling Act to stop this out of control terror in Germany.

      I like how you posted no evidence to prove your “facts” – and labeled your opinions as “facts” when they’re completely warped. Basically, you admitted that you’re just some adolescent turd who doesn’t think outside of the “7th grade mindset” and you let others do your thinking for you. You’re kind of humourous, except not. I’m just glad you’re not old enough to vote… and if you ARE old enough to vote… well, that sure explains 2008 a little better.

      So, again, explain how this “system” would “work”? I’d love to see you try and fail. Such a wonderful troll, you are. 🙂 🙂

  12. superbloop permalink
    April 8, 2010 4:32 am

    So, basically, you’re admiting that America’s culture and lifestyle is so screwed up that, even with the “best health care syste in the world”, they still lag behind everyone else in life expextency. Great!

    And yes, we may have the “best” quality of Health Care, but that means nothing if you can’t afford it.Your job might cover the costs, but not always. And if you don’t have a job or you made a few bad decitions or were born poor, then you are pretty much screwed. And even if you do, sometimes a company can deny your claim outright as a prexsisting condition. And that seems to happen a lot (being screwed): despite having such an “efficient” health care system, we still have below averge health care usage:
    http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/reprint/22/3/89.pdf

    And yes, some Canadians don’t like “socailized” medicine. But the majority are content or happy with it: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/canadians-happy-with-primary-health-care-study-says/article1229169/

    And yes, people sometimes screw up fiscally. But those screw ups should NOT lead to the person having a shorter life span. Not everyone is good with money. And what about people who were poor to begin with?

    Ironically, you compare the T-4 plan to “Obamacare”, yet you are willing to let people die simply because they could not afford health care.

    • April 8, 2010 9:13 pm

      Oh boy.

      So, Basically, you’re admitting that you’re a complete moron. First of all, you can’t spell, you can’t comprehend the things you “read”, and you have a thing for jumping to assumptions and putting words in peoples’ mouths.

      Every individual has control of their own lifestyles. Take smokers for instance. If a person smokes, they’re more likely to develop illnesses related to smoking. Overweight people who don’t eat healthy foods or exercise are more likely to develop health issues related to weight. People like you with double-digit I.Q.s are more likely to walk in the middle of a busy street and get hit by a bus. You see? Situational.

      Just because a portion of our population cannot afford the best health insurance – doesn’t mean our incompetent government needs to step in and socialize it; ruining the best health care system in the world, ruining it for the rest of us. No, my job does not offer health insurance. No, I do not have health insurance. Yes, I pay out of pocket to see the doctor. Yes, I am healthy. Yes, I smoke, but I do exercise. If I develop any smoking related conditions; I’m not going to bitch and whine about it – because I brought it on myself. You see how that works? You, on the other hand, can’t seem to dry your vagina over this health care thing. Are you some lazy fatass sitting in his mother’s attic chowing down on pizzas and donuts? Don’t hold that against me, pal. Get off your ass and exercise. When you’re old enough, go get a job and pay your own way through life, because nobody else wants the burden of raising YOU when you’re your own person.

      I was born poor. I made mad decisions. I don’t have a “GREAT JOB”… but I manage. I see the doctor once a month. Healthy as could be, but I have my own issues. Does anyone else owe it to me to pay for my financial problems? Nope. Am I bitching about entitlements? No. I’m not “entitled” to anyone else’s money. Neither are you.

      So, once again, reform isn’t necessarily needed in our ENTIRE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM; but individual insurance companies. You see? You regurgitate the same bullshit talking points, but you don’t absorb the things I’m teaching you. How old are you, anyway? My best guess – based on your lack of reading comprehension skills, entitlement mentality, and the horrid way you type and repeat yourself… fourteen? Am I right?

      Just because not everyone is “good with money” – doesn’t mean that I need to compensate for it. If someone isn’t good with money, fuck them. I’m “poor”, so what’s your deal?

      Why do you assume that I’m willing to let people die? Who said that? Is anyone turned away when they show up at the ER? Nope. They’re also not charged immediately at the ER – and can go for ANYTHING. A bill is sent to their residence and they can make payments on the treatment they received. You need to read up on the T-4 and Obamacare plans – because it’s clear to everyone reading this that you’re ignorant on both issues.

      Again, nice try. Go ask your mother to tell you what T-4 was all about, mmmkay? 🙂

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