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If He Grants Them Amnesty – They Won’t Be ILLEGALS!

September 18, 2009

Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care
Republicans see a backdoor move toward ‘amnesty’

Article: Washington Times

President Obama said this week that his health care plan won’t cover illegal immigrants, but argued that’s all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

He also staked out a position that anyone in the country legally should be covered – a major break with the 1996 welfare reform bill, which limited most federal public assistance programs only to citizens and longtime immigrants.

“Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don’t simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken,” Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. “That’s why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.

Mr. Obama added, “If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all.”

Republicans said that amounts to an amnesty, calling it a backdoor effort to make sure current illegal immigrants get health care.


(AP Photo/Rob Carr)

“It is ironic that the president told the American people that illegal immigrants should not be covered by the health care bill, but now just days later he’s talking about letting them in the back door,said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee.

“If the American people do not want to provide government health care for illegal immigrants, why would they support giving them citizenship, the highest honor America can bestow?” Mr. Smith said.

But immigrant rights groups see the speech as a signal that Mr. Obama is committed to providing health care coverage for anyone in the United States legally, regardless of their citizenship status.

Okay, let me stop for a second. You morons, if BHussein Obama is committed to providing health care coverage for anyone in America LEGALLY how could he do this “regargless of their citizenship status”? If they’re ILLEGAL – THEY’RE CITIZENSHIP STATUS IS ILLEGAL. Comprende? Okay – back to the article.

“It’s the first time I’ve certainly heard, publicly, him talking more about legal immigrants,” said Eric Rodriguez, vice president for research and advocacy at the National Council of La Raza (NCLR). “I think that was certainly positive progress. We were absolutely concerned about not hearing that.”


La Raza & the like.

On Wednesday, hours before Mr. Obama’s speech, the NCLR had given the administration a public scolding, demanding that Mr. Obama needed to make “a public commitment … to ensure that those who are here legally are covered.”

A White House spokesman did not respond to questions about where the White House would make the cutoff for eligibility, and Mr. Rodriguez said he’s still waiting for an answer from the administration.

“We don’t know where they mean to draw the line,” he said. “Our biggest concern is that most people don’t realize legal immigrants are currently barred from receiving health care benefits for the first five years in the country.”

Under the 1996 welfare overhaul, most federal aid programs are restricted to citizens and legal immigrants who have been in the country for at least five years. Democrats have tried this year to chip away at that rule.

Immigration has dogged Mr. Obama in the health care debate. Rep. Joe Wilson, South Carolina Republican, shouted, You lie, when the president, in an address to Congress last week, said his plans wouldn’t cover illegal immigrants.

Lawmakers – who got an earful from constituents back home during August – have insisted on extra checks to make sure illegal immigrants do not have access to taxpayer-funded programs.

Senators have worked on language that would prevent illegal immigrants from buying insurance through a proposed insurance exchange envisioned in the health care reform package.

But the NCLR said that could lead to situations where some members of a family would be covered and others, including children of illegal immigrants, wouldn’t be.

Mr. Obama said legalizing illegal immigrants is a way to take the sting out of the entire issue.

But Republicans said by pushing to legalize illegal immigrants, Mr. Obama is signaling that those here illegally eventually will get access to taxpayer-funded benefits.

Still, the push to pass a legalization bill is beginning to gain steam, even as advocates fret that the White House is moving too slowly.

On Thursday, Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez, Illinois Democrat and an outspoken advocate for legalization, agreed to take leadership in writing a new, more generous bill.

“We simply cannot wait any longer for a bill that keeps our families together, protects our workers and allows a pathway to legalization for those who have earned it,” Mr. Gutierrez said. “Saying immigration is a priority for this administration or this Congress is not the same as seeing tangible action, and the longer we wait, the more every single piece of legislation we debate will be obstructed by our failure to pass comprehensive reform.”

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28 Comments leave one →
  1. steve permalink
    September 19, 2009 12:23 am

    I’ve gotten blistered over this one DangerB. Gawd these liberals cannot have all their oars in the water that buy this crap!

    • September 19, 2009 2:03 am

      They don’t care about right and wrong. To them it’s “right” and “left” and they’ll be damned if they’ll willfully admit that they’re wrong. That the policies of the left are tainted with hate, evil, and anti-Americanism.

      Oh, don’t forget. He’s “black”

      Bwuahahahaha. Black my Irish ass.

  2. herbert stamper permalink
    January 10, 2010 8:37 pm

    hello,DangerB,how are you and fishleg doing? just browsing around looking for libterd comments,need the laughs,but they seem to be geting fewer and farther in between.
    saw your post and wanted to say hi. tell fishleg to keep in touch.

    • January 10, 2010 9:17 pm

      Hey Herbert! Fishleg and I are doing very well. πŸ™‚ No complaints anyway (No complaints that aren’t political). I haven’t seen many liberal trolls on many of these sites lately. I wonder why that is. Perhaps they’re finally seeing the light? Ah, we can hope, right? πŸ™‚ Glad to hear from you and Fishleg says “Hey Herbert!”

  3. herbert stamper permalink
    January 10, 2010 9:24 pm

    gotta pray you are right, that they are seeing the light.
    obamster is trying to destroy America in more ways than the taliban ever dreamed. terrorist from within are the ones we should be worried about,and he is the worst of the worst,with help from rahm and erick as well as reid and the other loons in washington.
    good to see you are both okay. good patriots are in demand allways.

    • January 11, 2010 12:07 am

      Well, I’m not the smartest pickle in the jar, that’s for sure, but seriously… Why all of a sudden are major news sources bailing on their false Messiah and starting to report negatively against him. Even Nazi Pelosi slammed him the other day. His supporters are changing their minds; especially now, one year into his “presidency”, and the economy is in the TOILET. Sure, there’ll be those die hard fans, who I would HARDLY call ‘supporters’; since most of them aren’t even old enough to vote.

      The numbers keep plummeting, the economy keeps sinking, the value of the dollar continues to drop, and he has yet to accomplish a single thing.

      It’s good to see you’re doing well too. When you gonna visit? πŸ˜‰

  4. January 10, 2010 9:54 pm

    The immigration system in America is not broken.
    All the steps and papers and doctors and fees are all in place.

    The open border system is what’s broken.

  5. January 10, 2010 10:36 pm

    Fishleg,

    No doubt if they would just enforce the laws on the books, and secure the border, really secure it. That was my main beef with GWB (that and the patriot act). What in hell have republicans been thinking…do they actually think that 30 million illegals were going to benefit them…morons. I am so sick of all the talk from the rino’s in the republican party with there amensty crap and their cap and trade support. I am an independent voter that happens to be conservative in nature. The rino’s had better wake up and smell manure for what it is.

    • January 11, 2010 12:08 am

      HAHA. This administration? Enforce laws? Hell, one of the things about Bush that bothered me the most was his weakness on illegal immigrants. I swore up and down that if he did not pardon Compean and Ramos (I think, I might have gotten the names wrong) I would never stand up and defend him. Although, I still don’t think they should have been punished at ALL.

      The RINOs can take their indecisiveness and shove it. It’s black and white. It’s right or wrong. There is no happy in between.

  6. January 11, 2010 12:13 am

    MY BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH BUSH WERE ILLEGALS AND THE MEXICO-USA CANADA THING.
    OOOPS caps lock
    Bad news is coming as they strive to make us lose our national identity.
    Pure evil.

  7. herbert stamper permalink
    January 11, 2010 3:55 am

    will visit soon. work is slow again,and i have a cold from riding bike over three hundred miles thursday like a fool,but i will get there.
    fishleg,you are right. the fact that immigration officers are not doing their job and obama loves it that they dont is the problem. things have to get better.
    they dont care that jobs for Americans are going to mexicans and the black Americans are not even being considered for those jobs any more than you or i. ALL Americans should stand against this. it is bad enough that obama is giving tax breaks to companys to send jobs off to mexico,we dont need the mexicans here illegally taking even more.

  8. January 11, 2010 12:54 pm

    When will it end, Herbert?
    They seem to want blood. When a government keeps a citizen from feeding his family, I mean..forget about the pursuit of happiness, but when they are keeping American workers from paying bills and eating food, there will be blood.
    It starts off slow…..

  9. herbert stamper permalink
    January 12, 2010 3:38 am

    hello brother,
    i think it will end when we get to the point where we are not afraid to be the opposite of politicaly correct,and start arresting and convicting the libterds of treason.
    did you get the picture of the muslim obama reading the book called the world after post America? the picture has been,as you will see,authenticated as untouched. the book was written by one of his fellow muslim radicals,and anyone who wants to support this muslim mafia thug should be tried for treason. these are NOT Americans.

  10. January 12, 2010 9:12 pm

    I did see that, Herb….it is almost a year old.
    See how long it takes something to get through the mainstream media gobbledygoop?

    We have NO president and an unconstitutional congress.
    This won’t end in a very pretty fashion.

  11. herbert stamper permalink
    January 13, 2010 1:55 am

    right you are bro,i sent the picture and info to elrushbo,and foxnews,but i think they are just 80 percent with the regular people.
    thanks again,for your advice and opinion on that other thing. i respect your and JC s opinions because you are the kind of true people who would tell me if i am wrong about something,so that makes it count,and i asked no one else for opinions,because i wanted truth.

  12. herbert stamper permalink
    January 13, 2010 4:20 am

    so are you DB,and thats why i love these people,the great outnumber the loons.
    i do miss stoopstoptart though,these kind of loons made me laugh and when you get as old as i a good laugh is worth money.
    i AM however happy to see more people waking up and realizing that obama and his muslim mafia are threat to the future of a great nation.
    keep up the good work,and i will take that long last ride by april 11th at the latest,and stop in town to say hello to you and my brother.

    • January 13, 2010 4:05 pm

      Aw shucks. πŸ˜‰ lol.

      Sometimes I miss the trolls, because let’s face it; feeding them and subliminally educating them is fun and satisfying. Sadly, I think majority of the Obamatrons are starting to see the light…

      But, knowing that more people are becoming “hip to the game” is a lot more rewarding because that gives us all hope that someone will come in and save our Nation.

      You’re always welcome here, Herbert. Fishleg thinks very highly of you. πŸ™‚

  13. herbert stamper permalink
    January 14, 2010 2:50 am

    Danger B,
    fishleg is one great person,and i am proud to know him. i cant wait untill april,when i can get to town,meet yall and buy big steaks for all.
    i have one last long ride in me i think,and i am gonna take it. washington will be the most important part of the trip timewise,but i will leave early,so i can stop to say hello,and after washington d c i do not plan on returning home,at least for a while. i will take camping gear,and ride like the wind as far as i can,and when i cant go any more,i will rest up and head back to fl.
    we only live once,and i outride my friends who love to go biking with me. they cannot believe i can ride for hours on end and still want to keep going,when they are tired,and wanna go home.
    maybe i am messed up,but i love my country,family and friends,and then riding comes next. maybe that is the reason i will never get married again. can you imagine someone wanting to play second fiddle to a big motorcycle?hahahaha

    • January 14, 2010 3:06 am

      You’re not messed up at all. You just know what you want and what you have to do to be happy!

      FishLeg is one hell of a man. I lucked out when I found him. Of course, I believe that God brought us together. We’d love to meet up with you one of these days. Maybe go fishin’ or something. I need to get my Irish ass up to DC, too. Hell, maybe we could go at the same time – depending on how work treats us.

      Sometimes.. life just demands you drop everything and head out. I’ve often thought about filling my car and driving until I can’t stand it anymore. Just to see what there is out there in this big old country. Leave home – take some “me” (I’d bring FishLeg, of course) time and just go go go.

  14. herbert stamper permalink
    January 14, 2010 3:16 am

    DangerB,
    yes you were lucky,and my brother is lucky too.
    when i got married,i gave up a lot,and did so gladly. i would have stepped in front of a train for that libterd woman.i was not so lucky.i fail to see now how i could ever take the chance of falling again,unless its off the bike,which wouldnt hurt as much.
    i think going to washington together sounds like the best idea i have heard yet. i would be happy to follow you and fishleg on motorcycle,as i sometimes have the nasty habit of riding too fast. the only thing is that i have to stop every 150 miles to fuel up,but other than that, i wouldnt hold yall up,unless yall want to take your time getting there,which wouldnt bother me in the least. i like to take my time these days anyhow.

    • January 14, 2010 3:57 am

      Well, I may be young, but the way I see it… everyone has a past. Some things you cannot control. But; if you ever feel yourself falling again – and you’ll know it, you’ll FEEL it in your heart – don’t deny yourself. Follow your heart. When I found FishLeg, I certainly wasn’t looking. It was a weird situation for the both of us, but God told me that he was mine. I hope this doesn’t sound all cornball, but FishLeg and I are so alike and we get along so well. He’s the perfect man for me, and I’m so fortunate that I found him and thank God for him every day.

      Oh, and don’t worry about stopping every 150 miles to fuel up. I have to stop every 150 miles to pee! LMAO.

      You know what I want? I want a MOTORTRIKE. Oh my God. How COOL. (Well, to me anyway. I’m sure you ‘hardcore’ riders laugh at those things)

  15. herbert stamper permalink
    January 14, 2010 3:35 am

    by the way,i went to ft myers beach today,saw road work in progress,installing pipes along the road. i was confused at the number of mexicans who were out there. eight mexicans,and ONE old white man. NO black Americans,and the only thing i could think of to make my anger stay down,was the fact that ther were also no muslims.

    • January 14, 2010 3:59 am

      The white man was the crew leader I’m sure. They send one “American” to supervise a crew of numbnuts and tacos who do a half-assed job anyway.

      Shiiiit.

  16. herbert stamper permalink
    January 14, 2010 4:13 am

    DangerB,thats right,the old man was sitting in his truck,talking on a radio,while six mexicans were working,and two were watching.
    the black Americans will figure out soon that obama is trying to get the mexican votes,and he doesnt care about them,he has their votes. he has their votes,just because he is black,an unAmerican way to vote,but they will continue to be his peons.

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